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  Did you ever volunteer at or visit Bethel? What were your impressions when you were in the WBTS vs. now (looking back)?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

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  did you ever volunteer/visit bethel back when you were in the borg?

  at the time, it opended my eyes as i saw a lot of red flags.

  for instance, volunteers were kept so busy without reasonable accomodations that everyone became in a robotic-zombie state of compliance with an unreasonably strict fast pased schedule.

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  MOOMANCHU - the Bethelites are being assimilated into the existing congs in and around USNY. Some congregations are even "splitting" due to the huge influx. Some will be driving 1hr+ one-way to go to meetings.
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  My introduction

  by zakharijah in

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  ok i think its time i introduce myself... and sorry, its going to be verrry long.. .

  i am 32, married, 2 children.

  i am french but i live in scotland.. .

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  breakfast of champions

  Welcome zakharijah! Great you got out with family in tow. Nice picture in the youtube!
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  WATCHTOWER IN A PANIC!

  by JW GoneBad in

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  2. bible

  jws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.

  at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.

  an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.

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  breakfast of champions

  Welcome, JBROWN123!
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  Discussion w/ Wife: I Welcome Your Suggestions

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so these last few wts have definitely eroded my wife's faith in the org.

  she is definitely seeing the bs, and i even overheard her talking openly about it to a family member.

  good for her!.

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  Thanks everyone for the feedback! I will take everyone's input and try to synthesize a response for my wife to consider.

  I know the reason she brought up these particular subjects is because she's experiencing major cognitive dissonance right now.

  I realize I am literally watching her "cult self" scramble for ANY reason why she should still consider this thing to be "the truth."

  When I hear my REAL wife talk, it's almost shocking! We had another talk in the car yesterday, and her "true self" was asking some good questions, and reasoning like a rational human being. If I can just get THAT person to surface entirely. . . .

  For now, I think I'm going to let these two issues sit on the back burner. I've got all of the great links and info posted here, so I'll be more prepared next time.

  I'm hoping (actually I'm pretty sure!) the upcoming annual meeting will really shake my wife. I know the kind of wacky, controlling, cult rhetoric these bozos use at these things, and my wife is becoming more and more sensitive to it.

  Thanks again,

  BOC
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  Discussion w/ Wife: I Welcome Your Suggestions

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so these last few wts have definitely eroded my wife's faith in the org.

  she is definitely seeing the bs, and i even overheard her talking openly about it to a family member.

  good for her!.

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  So these last few WTs have definitely eroded my wife's faith in the Org. She is definitely seeing the BS, and I even overheard her talking openly about it to a family member. Good for her!

  Here is what she's stuck on though: Jehovah's Witnesses don't go to war. And who else is doing the preaching work like Jehovahs Witnesses?

  She feels these things make JWs unique. All I said is that just because some group is unique, it doesn't mean they are the only true religion on earth.

  I left it at that, not wanting to push too hard without thinking about it a little more.

  So what do you guys think? How would you reason with someone on those points?

  I've already got my own ideas, but want to know what you think.
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  Have you ever tried Tai Chi? How do you like it?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Just started taking lessons and I like it very much!

  No, it's not cardio, but it's great for mind/body control.
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  For Anyone With the WT CD ROM

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my curiosity is killing me, and i don't have access to a cd rom right now, so here's my question:.

  how many "hits" does "144000" get in the magazines over the past 5 years or so?.

  my prediction is that mention of "the 144000" has been decreasing steadily over the past few years, as they move towards phasing out a literal interpretation of this scripture.. thanks,.

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  Thanks guys! [esp. SAYSWHO]

  Interesting stats. . . .
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  Question about the Farms

  by maninthemiddle in

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  2. friends

  where is it located?.

  do they still use it as a farm?.

  the farm is where they dug up the barrels of old ink, what are they building there?.

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  breakfast of champions

  As far as I know, there is no longer any farming going on at the "farms"
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  help with sociologist friend...

  by losingit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is a sociologist.

  this person does research on being gay and mormon, and will shortly come out with a book.

  we had a lengthy discussion about cults (in general, and jws in particular), and basically the sociologist believes that all religions are cults.

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  Your sociolgist friend is correct - from his perspective: yes, basically all religions are cults. You can get into how a consensus view is formed, yada yada yada, and the cult goes mainstream. . . .

  Hassan's perspective on cults is different, and in my humble estimation, more precise. He is coming, not from a sociological angle, but a psychological one.

  The psychological perspective takes into account the effects of the group on the individual, in this case, thought reform methods used by high-control groups, as opposed to sociologists, who basically say Well isn't this weird and interesting, hmmmmm to each his own, we're not to judge . .. and leave it at that.
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  Atheist Podcasts

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the podcasts (radio shows) are getting better and better.

  here are the links for those interested.... (all available on i-tunes).

  the atheist experience:.

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  My personal favorite is "Reasonable Doubts." Very sharp.